An opinion piece in today's Inquirer, written by a Pennsylvania legislator, complains that the coverage has overblown this issue and portrayed it unfairly. He makes several good points, including that the raise was part of a complicated budget negotiation in which many other good things were achieved, that much legislation is finalized in the wee hours of the day (and thus that this was hardly an attempt to sneak a pay-raise through in dark of night), and that the pay raise received plenty of discussion beforehand. He ends the piece thusly:
Despite all the hard political lessons I've learned in my life, I'm still naïve enough to hope that someday the news media will become as obsessed with, say, people living in poverty or the flaws in our criminal justice system as they are with legislative salaries.
Fair enough point -- I can hardly disagree.
Despite the above, the public continues to feel hard-done-by, as evidenced by the brief letter at the bottom here, which cites some old aphorisms in its condemnation of governmental greed.
Finally, John Baer chips in some more, this time appealing to the political self-preservation instincts of the Republican leadership to repeal the current-year portion of the raises in response to the rising consciousness of the outraged public.
Ok, I'm beating a dead horse; I heard last night, from someone who attended a minimum wage coalition meeting, that there are clear indications that the coalition is concerned about the linkage between the wage hikes and the minimum wage efforts. This is reflected in the fact that they are worried about having their rally in Harrisburg the same day as NN delivers petitions -- for fear that the minimum wage issue will get overshadowed by wage hike outrage.
While you have made good points about the benefits of linking the issues, isn't it concerning that an organization specifically focused on the minimum wage, (in addition to the two Philadelphia area legislators most active in initiatives to further that cause) feels the issues shouldn't be linked?
Gee, wouldn't it be great if you were part of the NN Steering Committee and having near-daily discussion of this issue, so that you could know how it was considered? Oh wait...
Tons of discussion, with Mark Cohen (a concerned minimum wage proponent) and internally, about this and other aspects of the strategy, as well as reality-checking with other legislators and people who have a sense of the positive and negative effects that this particular approach may have on its intended goals. And discussion of both those political consideration and of the principles at stake (short-term and long-term). Of course no conclusive answers, but very much attuned to the concern, and deciding to proceed anyway for a host of reasons. Apologies that I'm not willing to regurgitate it all again here.
We consider the minimum wage coalition key allies, and will probably deliver our petition on a separate day from their rally, both not to distract and also to get double coverage for the issue (and for us the linkage is only about atonement, not about repeal). But again, not going to try to keep you abreast of all the discussions and considerations here. Just have faith that the campaign is not being pursued blindly, and that we will attempt to keep our radar up during this and any future such undertakings, in hopes of being aware of both positive and negative fall-out. Noisy folks always ruffle feathers, but one hopes to keep the damage to a minimum among allies.
It's good to hear that a multi-faceted discussion is taking place. I could have assumed that (I can only imagine how many e-mails your getting), but didn't have any way of knowing for sure. I've mostly only been getting my information via the press and periodic contact with my Ward Coordinator, and I missed the petition e-mail that I assume laid out arguments on both sides of the issue.
And along those lines, if at some point it becomes logistically feasible, it would be nice if there could be some kind of summary of SC discussions/decisions e-mailed, posted on the website, or made available by other means. Obviously, your blog isn't the appropriate vehicle for NN to disseminate information, but isn't important that members have a window into the workings of the SC?
Probably many ward coordinators are informing members of the discussions afoot, and feeling-out the larger membership to gain a measure of general opinion, but that could be a hit-or-miss process for a lot of people for a variety of reasons (packed meeting agendas, people missing meetings, etc.).
Secondly, it seems to me that such a facility could link to insuring that NN functions in a bottom-up fashion. I know that "computer-systems" is a big topic under discussion, but is there any vehicle in the meantime for expressing opinions on various issues under discussion, aside from the multi-step process of SC to Ward Leader to Division Leader to Member to Division Leader to Ward Leader to Steering Committee?
hmm, interesting. well, there was once discussion about making SC meetings open, or I could certainly see posting some kind of abbreviated minutes, but a lot of discussion takes place via email as well, which could get tough to keep updated. those are often the time-pressed ones (which included strategic considerations); plus, they may involve consideration of specific players, strategic goals, or other things that wouldn't be appropriate to make public in an unfiltered way, so it would be a tricky consideration.
anyway, before I forget, there's a discussion board that was established quite early in NN's history, but that hasn't gotten much use in the last month, but which could serve as a way to be sure that discussions can be had, independent of individual WC activism, etc. -- it's at http://www.phillyneighborhoodnetworks.org/disc1_frm.htm otherwise, I think that the main conduit of information in both directions is the Ward Coordinator (who can be a resource for anybody in that area), or you can send a direct email on any urgent topic via the contact address on the website. so even though strategic planning is centralized, the "top" isn't closed to ongoing input...
Mark, as ever, I value your insight and experience. However, you seem to be the only state legislator (of a sampling of a dozen) who actually thinks that any Democratic allies will be lost because of this tactic. Most seem sympathetic to the strategic realities, and no less in favor of the minimum wage hike because of the flak that they're taking state-wide. For that matter, it's clear from my experience with the petition that this isn't linkage that we're having to feed to ordinary people; they've already made it themselves.
As for the Republicans, most hard-core foes won't be moved by any approach. However, hearing Perzel say something like "of course I support a raise" when confronted on his doorstep, even if he only means a raise to $6.15 instead of $7.15, makes me think that all the pressure is having a nonzero positive effect.
I understand that you've been working on/for this bill for a long time, and that you worry about a group of upstarts coming along and making your job harder. However, I honestly think we're rowing in the same direction, even if we disagree on the tools and the speed. Only time will tell -- here's hoping!
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Ok, I'm beating a dead horse; I heard last night, from someone who attended a minimum wage coalition meeting, that there are clear indications that the coalition is concerned about the linkage between the wage hikes and the minimum wage efforts. This is reflected in the fact that they are worried about having their rally in Harrisburg the same day as NN delivers petitions -- for fear that the minimum wage issue will get overshadowed by wage hike outrage.
While you have made good points about the benefits of linking the issues, isn't it concerning that an organization specifically focused on the minimum wage, (in addition to the two Philadelphia area legislators most active in initiatives to further that cause) feels the issues shouldn't be linked?
Gee, wouldn't it be great if you were part of the NN Steering Committee and having near-daily discussion of this issue, so that you could know how it was considered? Oh wait...
Tons of discussion, with Mark Cohen (a concerned minimum wage proponent) and internally, about this and other aspects of the strategy, as well as reality-checking with other legislators and people who have a sense of the positive and negative effects that this particular approach may have on its intended goals. And discussion of both those political consideration and of the principles at stake (short-term and long-term). Of course no conclusive answers, but very much attuned to the concern, and deciding to proceed anyway for a host of reasons. Apologies that I'm not willing to regurgitate it all again here.
We consider the minimum wage coalition key allies, and will probably deliver our petition on a separate day from their rally, both not to distract and also to get double coverage for the issue (and for us the linkage is only about atonement, not about repeal). But again, not going to try to keep you abreast of all the discussions and considerations here. Just have faith that the campaign is not being pursued blindly, and that we will attempt to keep our radar up during this and any future such undertakings, in hopes of being aware of both positive and negative fall-out. Noisy folks always ruffle feathers, but one hopes to keep the damage to a minimum among allies.
cheers!
It's good to hear that a multi-faceted discussion is taking place. I could have assumed that (I can only imagine how many e-mails your getting), but didn't have any way of knowing for sure. I've mostly only been getting my information via the press and periodic contact with my Ward Coordinator, and I missed the petition e-mail that I assume laid out arguments on both sides of the issue.
And along those lines, if at some point it becomes logistically feasible, it would be nice if there could be some kind of summary of SC discussions/decisions e-mailed, posted on the website, or made available by other means. Obviously, your blog isn't the appropriate vehicle for NN to disseminate information, but isn't important that members have a window into the workings of the SC?
Probably many ward coordinators are informing members of the discussions afoot, and feeling-out the larger membership to gain a measure of general opinion, but that could be a hit-or-miss process for a lot of people for a variety of reasons (packed meeting agendas, people missing meetings, etc.).
Secondly, it seems to me that such a facility could link to insuring that NN functions in a bottom-up fashion. I know that "computer-systems" is a big topic under discussion, but is there any vehicle in the meantime for expressing opinions on various issues under discussion, aside from the multi-step process of SC to Ward Leader to Division Leader to Member to Division Leader to Ward Leader to Steering Committee?
hmm, interesting.
well, there was once discussion about making SC meetings open, or I could certainly see posting some kind of abbreviated minutes, but a lot of discussion takes place via email as well, which could get tough to keep updated. those are often the time-pressed ones (which included strategic considerations); plus, they may involve consideration of specific players, strategic goals, or other things that wouldn't be appropriate to make public in an unfiltered way, so it would be a tricky consideration.
anyway, before I forget, there's a discussion board that was established quite early in NN's history, but that hasn't gotten much use in the last month, but which could serve as a way to be sure that discussions can be had, independent of individual WC activism, etc. -- it's at http://www.phillyneighborhoodnetworks.org/disc1_frm.htm
otherwise, I think that the main conduit of information in both directions is the Ward Coordinator (who can be a resource for anybody in that area), or you can send a direct email on any urgent topic via the contact address on the website. so even though strategic planning is centralized, the "top" isn't closed to ongoing input...
geez, get back to work, man!
;)
Mark, as ever, I value your insight and experience. However, you seem to be the only state legislator (of a sampling of a dozen) who actually thinks that any Democratic allies will be lost because of this tactic. Most seem sympathetic to the strategic realities, and no less in favor of the minimum wage hike because of the flak that they're taking state-wide. For that matter, it's clear from my experience with the petition that this isn't linkage that we're having to feed to ordinary people; they've already made it themselves.
As for the Republicans, most hard-core foes won't be moved by any approach. However, hearing Perzel say something like "of course I support a raise" when confronted on his doorstep, even if he only means a raise to $6.15 instead of $7.15, makes me think that all the pressure is having a nonzero positive effect.
I understand that you've been working on/for this bill for a long time, and that you worry about a group of upstarts coming along and making your job harder. However, I honestly think we're rowing in the same direction, even if we disagree on the tools and the speed. Only time will tell -- here's hoping!
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